No Internet, No Monero?

would people still be able to use the twatter if the internet goes down?
lowkey kinda sounds like bliss lol, no more twatter nonsense, just go back to trading P2P with literally whatever idk lol

but also, Grease L2 i guess?:
https://monero.forum/thread/grease-monero-layer-2

i mean, wasnt it the showcased usecase to be working at like monerotopia for like the bar tab or somethin?

edit: well, in the case the internet goes back online eventually lol
but like, for the whole internet shutdown then would have to shutdown the starlink satelites too no? like idk
then what's that LoRaWAN thing about? and mesh networks? idk tbh...

(speaking as a non technical person)
if the internet were to go down permanently?
no, and no other crypto would really work either
cause it's all about a massive conseensus on updating a database, and without a way to connect all the nodes and have everyone consistently updated on the status of the database, well then it's all foked.

the one idea that might work with many drawbacks is a mesh network, ie even if the internet as we know it fell, maybe a new way of connecting everyone via device to device connections creating a network might work. but, the databases of different segregated nodes would become desynced, so people could potentially make their own local currencies, but I imagine it would be difficult to merge any of these together if the segregated groups were ever connected to one another (but I'm talking out of my ass, I have no clue about the state of this technology)

but hey on the bright side, in a situation where the internet as we know it were to suddenly go down, I'm sure we won't be worrying about money in the short term

@cipherchan lmfao you're right, and I can see where you're going. I've never heard of Grease as well.

@avarice That makes sense. I've always been curious, though. I remember a world before all this technology, and sometimes it would be nice to disconnect completely.

the monerotopia venue wants to make an IRL asset pegged to xmr, i guess it would work without internet for a while

we need monero over reticulum.network or smt. ASAP!

@esna7 I never heard of reticulum.network or smt. That is interesting, what is SMT?

@Unstirred
pretty sure "or smt" just means "or something" lol

@Unstirred yes, my bad :) i meant 'or something'
-> meshtastic
-> meshcore

and since just been mentioning venezuela with their currency loosing all of the value, then there is also that project thing that got abandonned (which iirc they also had funding from the monero community):

https://github.com/btcven/locha

What is the Locha Mesh?

During the year 2018 in Venezuela there were power blackouts throughout the whole country which left cities without power for weeks, even cell towers run out of power supply after a few days, so despite people managed to charge their phones with generators or cars' battery, there wasn’t any cell service for them to communicate with others. No calls, no SMS, no mobile data.

How do you communicate and do commerce when there is no communication infrastructure, nor power grid at all?

The Locha Mesh is an open-source and open-hardware project initiated by the non-profit Bitcoin Venezuela in 2018, to create the software, protocol, and hardware needed for a resilient, decentralized, mesh network of devices capable of transmitting messages, data, Bitcoin transactions, and services completely off-grid without having to rely on an Internet connection or even the electrical grid, for disaster hit countries and privacy-concerned individuals and groups.

The Locha Mesh devices are battery powered and could also use solar panels. There will be custom made hardware, the Turpial, which is mobile-first so you can carry it around. (you can pre-order a Turpial device by making a donation to the project) and also DIY alternatives. The Turpial device can also be attached to a computer (desktop, laptop, Raspberry Pi...) to offer services to others and get paid in Bitcoin, Lightning Network, and Monero RPC-Pay. You can add a bigger antenna and power amplifier to serve a wider area or reach longer distances.