What Would Make Monero Easier for New Users?

@james6134k i think if someone want to move to monero biggest issue was big CEX almost had no monero on it, so we almost unknown to people until they found us by any chance

then the swapping, for little amount, we had little choice to choose, while if we had alot of monero. we had alot of choice where to choose the swapper, including the haveno.

back then monero can be reach simpler since alot of CEX had it on their list
now.... its more like "niche" that people come to know monero

Onboarding is by far the issue. Converting USD or other fiat to XMR can't really be done legally, it's not on any CEXs, and Retoswap is not easy to install and use for a non-techie. The only thing that will alleviate these issues is adoption, though.

@bulletbill22 What do you mean by "can't really be done legally"? Do you mean everywhere or are you referring to somewhere specific?

@nemesis Its my impression that, in places where it has any notable adoption, XMR is (de facto) illegal in more places than not. Specifically, it's largely illegal in the EU, China, Middle East, and Russia. It's "more" legal in the Americas, but we'll see for how long.

@bulletbill22
pretty sure your definition of "legal" is the same as the videogamers saying it's illegal to bot the videogames
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@GamingResearchLab

Maybe. There's a reason no exchanges list it, and it's not because they're all in ideologically lockstep. The only thing CEXs care about is money. They don't list it because compliance with the law is impossible (e.g. where banks must track where their accounts money gets sent) or cost prohibitive (i.e. legal compliance requires paying lawyers more than they sould make in fees).

When I was young, I played a game called EVE Online: a large-scale war game with extremely high difficulty. In the game, you need to spend months collecting resources, and equipment loss is irreversible. If your warship gets destroyed, it could mean months of effort completely wasted.

Yet despite being such a brutal game, player retention remains relatively high. What's the key? Community. When new players join, corporation members invite you to mine with them, people lead raid teams together, and even game GMs personally give starter items to newcomers. In such an environment, even an extremely harsh war game keeps everyone engaged and happy.

Talking back to Monero, I believe Monero has done as much as it can on the code side. Now it depends on the effort of each member within the community.

@bulletbill22 Is there an opportunity to swap satoshis from the lightning network into xmr?

@bulletbill22 Ok, I get other countries, but with USD mentioned, I assumed you meant US. Its completely legal in the US. The word Monero isn't even spoken by the control freaks. They may not want people to know it exists, hence it never being mentioned, but there is no law or policy in existence that makes it even remotely illegal. Its still available on Kraken in the US. If it were illegal, that would not be the case

@nemesis

Kraken is rolling out Monero withdrawal and deposit limits in order to comply with law enforcement. You can probably get higher limits if you reveal a bunch of personal information.

https://nitter.net/krakensupport/status/2078708757396086922

But you're right, North America is one of the best places for Monero legally, behind only central America IMO.

https://wikimore.private.coffee/wiki/en/wiki/Legality_of_cryptocurrency_by_country_or_territory

Although this list is helpful, the real trouble is that banking laws often require banks (and CEXs) to track where their customer's accounts transact, which is easy to do with bitcoin, but is impossible to do with monero. So even though it lists the EU as green, it's actually illegal to list monero there.