Proposal & Community Support: Privacy-Focused Multicoin Wrapper (XMR, ZEC, DASH) & ETF Roadmap

My feedback:
1- Not your keys, not your coins! So this defeats the purpose of investing in xmr. Besides this would be very simple to implement using onchain derivatives already; using wrapped tokens isn't really any better.
2- Your project wont boost the markets by 50-100x; that's an unrealistic expectation. Like I said, there's already a derivatives market.
3- There no good reason to bundle xmr and zec together. On the surface they fulfill the same role but in reality they have completely different investment cases. Monero is hard money with actual privacy; its markets are driven by organic adoption. Zec is a private means of enriching its dev's; its market are driven by limited private arrangements. Smart investors realize that in 10/20 years monero will still exist but zec is unlikely to. Don't listen to ai's advice on this it will just read some articles and recite them back to you.

That's my 2c anyway.

@Nebuchadnezzar_II Appreciate the skepticism. You are right that "not your keys, not your coins" applies, but wrapped assets are the only way to bypass the regulatory/KYC hurdles blocking institutional capital today.

On bundling XMR and ZEC: you're looking at them as a retail investor. Institutions looking at a Privacy ETF want sector exposure, not a single bet. We aren't here to pick winners between them; we're providing the wrapper for whatever the market demands.

@Stoxswap
I appreciate your argument about sector exposure and this idea actually carries a lot of weight in my own portfolio. If you buy every asset in the market then you're guaranteed your fair share of cash flows through that market. Boggle taught us that much. But unfortunetely this doesn't apply here because (as far as I can tell) beneath the surface xmr and zec have nothing to do with each other. Monero simply dominates its space: dnm and randomx. Zec is in the 'institutional crypto' space and is just not used for privacy (as far as I can tell).

I know its cliche for cryptobros to get all tribalistic about their favorite coin, so please let me know if you think I'm wrong.

Also you might be right about wrapped assets, but I suppose that depends on how regulators treat your system? For example, why don't they already use xmr1?

"but wrapped assets are the only way to bypass the regulatory/KYC hurdles blocking institutional capital today"

that's like a lie or somethin, total copium
institutions can just mine monero like everybody else
like, they buy hardware, they buy solar panels and done, they in the monero business as an institution lol

meanwhile what you're offering is creating a different cryptocoin with it's own set of attack vectors that has nothing to do with monero's tech, a wrapped monero token is not monero, ethereum contracts have high risks of getting exploited so... making a wrapped monero token is kinda psyop

always the same excuses too "institutions this or that"
50x - 100x trust lol
numbers go up trust

this thread is the perfect example of what the space bred, delulu scammers still playing with ethereum in 2026

like... @Stoxswap when ethereum switched from PoW to PoS that's when you should have ditched ethereum u know, like, selling those GPU that mined it and moving on u know
but nah, seems like @Stoxswap still stuck in the past, still not even knowing about circular economy or what, not knowing about cryptography, not knowing about basic shit that the whole frontpage of his website is like...
like, u know, the frontpage is the first impression for new people but nah, it's all AI
so... no even a dev i guess
and that's what this space gets, not even devs but AI users that saying their shit will get the price to do a 50x - 100x, very very delulu, meanwhile those wrapped tokens been made for years u know, way before those AI users could even use their AI lol, and those smart contracts be like... https://web3isgoinggreat.com

it's like, there's shits that are proven to work but there's also shits that are proven to be a complete failures
and that ethereum blockchain thing u wanna build the wrapped monero thing that's not even more seems to be a complete failure already:
https://www.web3isgoinggreat.com/?blockchain=ethereum
like, way to go, starting a project on something that is already a complete failure right of the start
@Stoxswap i think u should reconsider life, if u out here wanting monero to be like btc with the blackrock and shits then yea... would kindly tell you to fuck off cause you have no clue what even are the technologies you're working with, you're not a dev, maybe that's just not for you u know, the AI already doing the work instead of you anyways so like, maybe try to make a different scam? cause that one been tried already countless of times and u setting yourself for failure already, that's an already overdone scam, you're a bit too late on that @Stoxswap

@Nebuchadnezzar_II You say XMR and ZEC have 'nothing to do with each other' and then immediately group them together as the only two privacy coins in existence. You are arguing that ZEC is different because institutions like it better, but you are completely ignoring why Stoxswap is wrapping them. If they weren't functionally similar in terms of privacy tech, there would be no reason to bundle them. You're arguing semantics while they are arguing product structure.

@cipherchan And there it is. You've completely run out of logical arguments, so you resort to telling people to kill themselves. Thanks for proving my point that you have nothing of value to add to this discussion. I'm done engaging with you. I have nothing to prove to a keyboard warrior, and I certainly won't be discussing my real-life profession with you.

@Stoxswap
Sorry, I'm just not convinced that zec has any genuine adoption, in which case its just a money spinning operation. I'm sure you see what I'm saying; I would avoid including something like that in your bundle.

I am interested in other privacy coins, especially proof of stake options like zano. But its hard to tell which have substance? I think we are still far off having a private decentralised computer, and who's to say what project will be the first. Zano is maybe the closest attempt, but maybe I'm wrong about that.

sorry about the trolls. This one girl has like 5 accounts and just spams all day.

@Stoxswap lol wat

"so you resort to telling people to kill themselves"

i gave you the arguments lol, what are you even on about to make up stories lol, like the 50x - 100x monero price, you just very delulu, happens alot with people using AI
AI cant math and i guess, so cant AI users either...
maybe that's where you should start before using the AI, learning math?

"and I certainly won't be discussing my real-life profession with you"

right, your "real-life profession" is not being a dev, since you're yet an other AI user being delulu trying to push the same thing over and over again
wrapped monero is something that have been shilled by really dumb people for years and years, they really really dumb
now those really dumb people talking to the AI that make websites for them and that's @Stoxswap