It's my birthday today, but I'm so bored.

@Dragonmum

@yayogerardo So you know they're 15 and you're still being so harsh.... chill out dude. I dont get why you're giving me negrep when you made the exact same points in the rep comment that i did:
without medical supervision
I literally said make sure whatever you do, you do it safely.
Since I lack access to professional medical care—because my parents are completely opposed to it, leaving me no choice but to remain closeted while self-administering HRT—I have to find ways to transform my body into the form I desire while minimizing harm.

At 15, making such a permanent and personal decision should be evaluated with the highest scrutiny possible. Using the Trivium process of truth discovery (as described by Mark Passio; tdlr:grammar, knowledge, wisdom) would be my recommendation. WhatOnEarthIsHappening is his website.

That being said, and currently dating a feminine guy myself, I'd hate to see him do anything to his privates after getting influenced by "experts" who encourage it. Tho we're both in our 30s now, he used to talk about surgeries all the time about 6 years ago; then covid hit and he learned about the puppet masters after watching some of Mark Passio's podcasts with me. Hasn't mentioned surgeries in a while now, years. Hasn't had any either.

So yeah, really think about it, sure..but learn how to think first would be my advice. 15 is far too young to be making such permanent decisions. There really will be no going back.

@fantuan
The truth is that you and I evolved for billions of years to be on this planet and carry our own biochemical blueprints that don't need medical intervention in order to be full or complete. That problem that we feel with being human is a problem with the biochemistry of modernity. The solution is not medical intervention, the solution is to reconnect with organic biochemistry. Medical experts, in this case, exist to sell an system of pharmaceutical child abuse. Its about money and pain. I think you are smart enough to see that and hopefully avoid it, not that I'm here to help you or anything, help yourself.

If you are bored read Hospital by Han Song

@fantuan if you are gonna do this without bloodwork, then you most certainly do not understand the ramifications. You can say you do, but its clear you don't. This isn't a guess work thing. You're gonna fuck yourself up really bad.

@Nebuchadnezzar_II

I agree with you that modern pharmaceutical culture is part of the problem. Where I disagree is stopping there.

The kid didn't just wake up one morning and independently conclude that their natural body is the problem and that they need to chemically alter it. Something got them to that conclusion. That's the part everyone keeps skipping over.

I'm not convinced the answer is simply “medical intervention is bad.” I'm questioning the entire chain of influences that convinced a 15-year-old boy from the start of his life to the present that changing his biology is necessary in the first place.

And from my perspective, he's going in the wrong biological direction entirely. He's a boy whose body is developing through testosterone, yet he's taking estrogen because he's been convinced that his male biology is something that needs to be changed. I believe he needs to allow his natural testosterone-driven development to occur rather than chemically suppressing or overriding it.

The pharmaceutical industry, medical culture, online communities, social conditioning, and influences we're not even aware of can all be part of this conditioning. The fact that someone believes they arrived at the conclusion “independently” doesn't prove that they did.

That's the part I was getting at from the beginning.

@yayogerardo
I know what you're saying and you are right of course.

But I'm not saying that all medical intervention is wrong and we should take a 'gods will' approach to medicine.

I was alluding to a common trend in 'modern medicine' bullshit propaganda, with lgbt and adhd as examples. Firstly, it is very natural and expected for modern man to feel alienated from everything that it is to be human, as a consequence of living increasingly depleted and polluted lives; modern life is insufficient to meet human needs nutritionally, socially, psychologically, physiologically. The symptoms of this connection are taken to be fixable conditions of the individual rather than natural consequences of a broken system. So a false medical theory is developed to sell a cure that rather entrenches the problem by providing relief whilst further isolating the individual from any meaningful long term resolution. The only meaningful resolution to that kind of problem is to restore connection to lost nature.

In conclusion: The societal standard for sanity has become the ability to maintain coherence inside an actual madhouse. Which is a terrible standard for sanity. And so we all get branded insane and sold crazy drugs like whatever the fucks going on here. Me I'll just stick to the good shit like shrooms and stuff.