Lots of people with little to no programming experience trying to contribute by vibe-coding programs that are totally incomprehensible to them. This is not a good look for Monero. The more LLM slop I see, the more credibility and respect I lose, and the more I think that a lot of the people involved are just armchair politicians who otherwise spend their time on X, but think they're contributing to the ecosystem through their unmaintainable vibe-coded software. It's an extremely bad look, and all it does is show incompetence. If you can't code, don't code. This is not much different than changing the README.md on a project. I think a lot of vibe-coders are scum who think they can monetize their utter incompetence and get a passive income from their low effort projects. It's con man behavior.
Monero has a vibe-coding problem
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ok but then why the people that can just dont?
8 years for someone in monero to do a videogame thing is kinda too long ngl
just make it yourself or stop crying lol
and wtf even is "vibe-coding" like nah it's 100% AI coded, not a single line of code by an human
do you have any examples of the vibe coded programs?
personally there seem to be a lot of virtual card services popping up with very vibe coded websites, that's one (maybe) example. lots of exchanges or swappers as well? I've seen some wallet announcements that might be.
I wouldn't trust a vibe coded program as far as I could throw it, especially when it deals with important data like wallet addresses, transaction data, ip addresses, fingerprint-able into, etc.
while it's cool that people want to contribute something to the community, it would be better to do something high quality that has long term use versus try to spit out some slop that gets forgotten in a week (until there's a security breach)
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I wholeheartedly agree. And I would like to extend this to not just AI-developed software, but even in art, community generated content and text pieces. This is less of an issue in this forum but in other Monero spaces like the reddit board is full of this worthless trash.
I totally agree it gives a seriously damaging look to the uninitiated. Crypto already has a (deservedly) terrible reputation, and AI garbage, low effort content and blatant advertisements are making this uphill battle to win normies over even harder.
Vibecoding isn't a Monero problem, it is a problem with basically everything lol. AI is a tool and we need to kind of just accept that. It can be used correctly or abused. I think it is absolutely true that there needs to be some caution given to using any sort of application that looks vibecoded. But AI can also be used for really great things, and even creative things. I use a AI when I generate images of Monerochan, or if I am having computer issues when I brick my linux setup. Developers are increasingly using AI to find vulns and to fortify their applications. Spending a weekend developing an interesting thing to contribute to the Monero ecosystem, even if vibecoded, isn't inherently a bad thing. It shows they are hustling and developing something and if they didn't do it, it wouldn't exist.
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Monerotopia had some dude on a couple months ago shilling some auto-trading wallet, after sifting through a couple minutes of moonboy mumbo-jumbo he disclosed that he'd vibe-coded the whole thing and I laughed my ass off. Doug (the host) was actually impressed by that, which is unfortunate.
We've just got to be vigilant and check for red flags; Not like we can or should exercise direct control over these contributors, just express your disdain by not using their services.
If anything, this reinforces the need for FOSS and zero tolerance for proprietary tooling. This stuff needs to be visible for all to see.
@xenu regarding "AI is just a tool" -- it also happens to be a tool built off immeasurable amounts of stolen user data and surveillance platforms; It didn't just show up one day.
@ancap_objectivist I think Doug is a great guy but it is frustrating to hear him talk about anything technology related.
Hell, speaking of vibe coding, the Thorchain guy who built the Monero fuctionality literally said he vibecoded it. I mean he is a developer already but this is the new reality and it can have positive effects on the ecosystem. (I'm not wildly pro thorchain by any means, but it is an application that is being used and adding Monero will be a benefit).
Also obviously AI has been built by stolen data but that's just the way it is. It is still wildly useful.