[ANNOUNCEMENT] XMRMatters Mainnet Launching June 14th — Architecture & Protocol Changelog

When localmonero.co announced its doors were shutting back in May 2024, it left a massive void in the Monero ecosystem.

not really tbh, the way i covered their closure was:
"localmonero gracefully shutdown due to Haveno now being live"
that might not have been exactly the reason for their closure, that's how i covered it irregardless
point is, there was no "massive void", the alternative was there already

and to compare your project and similar projects running on a centralized server:
https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/Monero/comments/1ty3cvf/new_whale_on_btcxmr_atomic_swap/

Be advised that if you use this website for swapping, you do in fact have to trust that the website is going to perform the atomic swap and not just scam you. Even if the code is open source, you never know what code the site actually serves.

and that's a service that does the whole fancy "atomic swap" thing
so while your service is like "no tracking, no nothing, user privacy that's what's up", it's still just regular swap no? like no atomic swap
and still running on a centralized server that can serve any code that the website owner choose to serve, instead of being decentralized
unlike haveno

that's nice if you build reputation, grow a userbase and whatnot, but this literally just reminds me when the "minexmr" pool closed, which was exactly at the time P2Pool needed to be shilled
but some random dude saw the opportunity to build his own "mine2xmr" or whatever it was, riding on the reputation from the original pool, just to boost his own thing, kinda gross when P2Pool was just right here

same for your service, Haveno and DEX are a thing
centralized services imo should be deprecated at this point
that's nice you building things tho, but like, am just out here reading through the lines type thing u know...

Hi @lIlIIllIIIIllllII,

Thanks for commenting. Honest critique is the greatest blessing someone can give you.
it’s far better than a false pat on the back and a "yeah, everything is great" while watching things fall apart around you. My response here isn't a defensive reflex, nor is it meant to dismiss your points.

You’re completely right to praise Haveno, it’s an incredible project.
But we need to look at the practical reality of onboarding people to Monero.
Requiring a user to download a heavy desktop client, manage local daemon states, and navigate a steep technical learning curve can be incredibly daunting for someone just starting out.

I don't view XMRMatters as a competitor to Haveno. I view it as a critical bridge.
If a non-technical user finds Haveno too complex, their fallback shouldn't be giving up entirely or crawling back to a centralized, KYC-driven exchange. The more reliable, diverse avenues we have to trade XMR, the more resilient the whole ecosystem becomes.
XMRMatters is built to give those users a clean, accessible entry point while educating them through verified resources like this forum, Monerica, and the official Monero site.

This project is a long-term investment in community infrastructure and reputation. Who knows, maybe one day Fern will make a documentary about me, like the one they did on McAfee.

Jokes aside, that is my true motive.
I invite you to actually look at the platform, test the workflows, and audit what it promises versus what it delivers.
If my goal were to exploit or gatekeep "customers," my behavior would look entirely different.
I already have a day job. It's nothing glamorous just maintaining email servers for a European telecom operator under a strict NDA but it pays my bills, and it has absolutely nothing to do with this project.

I'm speaking plainly because I’m genuinely exhausted from seeing people assume every new P2P project has a hidden corporate agenda.
I am perfectly content if XMRMatters sits empty or quiet for months at a time, that quiet time just gives me more opportunities to harden the architecture, optimize node interactions, and make the system even more robust.

The platform was built fundamentally to protect the user. If you have any networking experience, I highly encourage you to sniff the traffic, map the endpoints, and analyze the connection payloads.
You'll see that absolutely zero personal metrics are harvested by the server.
Even our multi-instance defenses and anti-spam protections avoid logging network data; instead, they rely strictly on transient, client-side cryptographic tokens.
I engineered this with a simple rule: what isn’t collected can’t be leaked or subpoenaed.

I am building this because people are starting to realize that the EU and CBDCs are actively stripping away their financial freedom, and by destroying financial freedom, they target freedom of speech, and ultimately, our freedom to think.

I am completely aware that trust takes time, and I don't expect the community to blindly take my word for it right out of the gate. That’s perfectly fine.
When an architecture is genuinely built right, the security and utility speak for themselves over time.

I’m reaching out to the community and to you, because the end goal is to scale the Monero user base to the point where XMRMatters, Haveno, Bisq, and every other privacy-preserving platform have queues out the door because the demand for freedom is simply too high to handle.

Moving forward, whenever people ask me about the authenticity or the intent behind this project, I'll just link them directly to this response.

Requiring a user to download a heavy desktop client, manage local daemon states, and navigate a steep technical learning curve can be incredibly daunting for someone just starting out.

i kinda agree there yea
like, having something browser-based is literally next level for adoption, but since the decentralizated solution exists already
then, how are you gonna expect people to secure their own private keys, being onboarded into the "cryptocoin investment thing", if they're not able to even just install an app? monero itself is also an app, there's the daemon (which is perfect ngl), and the cli, those are desktop apps too...

so, imo, that's where it should start instead of offering them with a dumbed down version of the thing
yes people are literally retarded, am retarded too, and i like to be lazy too and just use a browser thing or whatever

but people being considered retards needing a dumbed down version is literally why windows became the shitshow that it became today
first by removing the extensions of files showing by default, like users are too retarded to know what a ".mp3" or ".exe" are so they needed those to be hidden by default

like, i get it, computers can be complicated, but we're similar to LLMs there, learning with what's around us
if you get people on the right ecosystem to start with, then they'll eventually find their way to proper use of the technologies

The platform was built fundamentally to protect the user. If you have any networking experience, I highly encourage you to sniff the traffic, map the endpoints, and analyze the connection payloads.
You'll see that absolutely zero personal metrics are harvested by the server.
Even our multi-instance defenses and anti-spam protections avoid logging network data; instead, they rely strictly on transient, client-side cryptographic tokens.
I engineered this with a simple rule: what isn’t collected can’t be leaked or subpoenaed.

yea i dont doubt any of that honestly, you seems very knowledgable so that's not the point am trying to make

I don't view XMRMatters as a competitor to Haveno. I view it as a critical bridge.

while i agree is not a competitor to Haveno, as it has its own usecase

instead of viewing it as a critical bridge for the retards like myself
(that can eventually find the way with the proper tools, if starting with the proper tools in the first place)

then, yeah, just, u know, the use of instant swap exchanges on what people wanting to swap to coins fast in specific scenarios, like, niche scenarios type thing, not the "day trader" fast, but the fast like, idk, different scenarios lol
like idk, someone just sold an nft from an other chain or something that is like big amounts and they want those to be safe and secure in monero, niche scenario there, might have happened, can happen lol
but those people are the ones that already know about the proper uses of the tech, they making money from it

so sure, your service wouldnt be a competitor to DEXs on that, as it would be able to provide something that they cant: "being sooper fast"

it's just, yeah, u know, for retards that dont know nothing about cryptocoins, they've been considered retarded in the head by corporations already (microsoft windows, their banks, literally anything that they been using i guess)
then people becoming complacent, if they learn that "oh shit, u can actually get up your ass and do something like installing an app and then do some cooking of good food instead of ordering on whatever idk lol"
then yea, those people eventually can do it

and tell u what, am pretty sure is been the reason why so many videogamers nowadays just hate all the videogames, because those corporations been taking them for literal retards that needs everything dumbed down, hence making those new videogames just a bad experience

tldr:
not a competition to haveno (for newcomers to the investing in cryptocoin thing)
but can have its use, similar to what other swap exchanges been used for (people already knowing cryptocoins)
and is always nice to have something from someone actually within the community to have a service
rather than like, idk fixedfloat that they delisted after binance delisting, then relisted to make a quick buck...

oh wait...
and i just realized, that was for P2P fiat trades, not "instant swap exchange"
fml, guess that whole wall of text can be ignored then lol

https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=8qL02peSWwg

still, imo the localmonero model should be seen as temporary not long-term
and not because i wouldnt trust your commitment to the project, am sure you can do an amazing job there
especially since:

I am perfectly content if XMRMatters sits empty or quiet for months at a time, that quiet time just gives me more opportunities to harden the architecture, optimize node interactions, and make the system even more robust.

but mostly because, by the time it would be "long-term" then that's probably when more work would have been needed to be done on the decentralized options

Hey @lIlIIllIIIIllllII,

To be fair, I read your entire post.

Yes, the platform is strictly for P2P trading.
It's not a crypto-to-crypto swap service using cross-chains.
It is built entirely around fair play between the buyer and the seller, depending on the type of offer.

I don't use the word disabled to describe people who aren't technical.
It’s not because I’m afraid of offending anyone, but because I believe everyone operates on a different spectrum of aptitude and intelligence depending on the discipline.
Because of that, not everyone has the time, energy, or desire to absorb extensive technical knowledge.
But trust me, when CBDCs are officially rolled out, they will be shoved down people's throats, and the masses will accept them simply because they don't know any better.

We absolutely need to extend a helping hand to those people rather than leaving them stranded.

@xmrmatters
since Haveno been mentioned
the reputation system over there is like, how many times u traded with someone
so if it went well multiple times, then you know that trader is trusted for you

how does the reputation work on your site?
can someone for example make multiple accounts and boost their own reputation to selective scams people that think they're trusted just because of the boosted numbers?
like yelp, amazon, all these been having issues with fake reviews, how are you handling those?